There is no end to the crazy. Musk now alleges that the Felon is in the Epstein files. A few thoughts, if that were to turn out to be true (and truly, the crazy thing is, it's just as likely to be true as false!)
1. This doesn't make Musk a "good guy." IF he knew about this information (IF it's even real) and kept quiet, he is a co-conspirator to egregious crimes.
2. No one rational ever doubted that the Felon and the Elon would eventually have an explosive break-up, because these are crazy times we live in.
3. The craziest part of this all is this: EVEN IF it turns out to be factual - that the Felon took part in the sexual assault/abuse of women and children along with Epstein - we do not know if EVEN THEN, his base would turn against him... that the GOP would turn against him. Maybe they would, but who knows?
They didn't turn against him when he boasted of sexual assault ("grab 'em by the..."),
they haven't turned against him with two impeachments,
they didn't turn against him with dozens of felony indictments,
they didn't turn against him with over 20 women accusing him of sexual assault,
they haven't turned against him for all of his profiteering off of the office,
or of putting his image on $5 million "gold" green cards
or profiteering off his bitcoin scams,
or selling pardons to serious criminals
or any of literally dozens of awful actions that would have, in normal times, ended a politician's career.
Conservatives, you tell me: IF it's shown to be the case that the Felon engaged in sexual predation of women and children with Epstein, will you THEN finally demand he step down or be removed?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/musk-unleashes-wild-epstein-claim-against-trump-booted-doge
And WHY do we have to even ask this question?
Thursday, June 5, 2025
The Crazy Marches On
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Note: It could also be the case that the Felon is named in the Epstein paperwork, but not that he was engaged in criminal activity. It could mean he simply rode on Epstein's plane, for instance.
Even just the current, minute by minute petulant war between ingrown men delegitimizes leadership by our Executive Branch.
We really don’t have a credible Presidency:
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It's just all so embarrassing and pathetic. It would be a sadly unfunny sitcom if it were a TV show, but as real life, it's also dangerous and literally deadly.
Do you think the odds are even that IF, for instance, videos of the Felon came out showing him molesting children (as opposed to simple audio, as in that radio clip!!), that EVEN THAT would force his supporters to revolt?
I truly don't think Marshal, for instance, would - even in that instance - condemn him and finally release his support.
It's a good thing that Trump and DOGE are going after the cheaters and frauds, like these people/this guy...
"A Miami man whose sentence President Donald Trump commuted this week was accused of helping orchestrate the nation’s largest mental healthcare racket before he pleaded guilty to a series of charges in 2011, the Herald reported at the time. Among those charges were defrauding Medicare, healthcare fraud and money laundering."
https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article307786050.html#storylink=cpy
Oh. But wait. THAT ultra rich medicare fraudster was PARDONED by the Felon. Just one felon doing a kindness for another. And the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the crazy marches on.
Well, we can be sure our conservative friends will decry all the wealthy cheaters and criminals that Trump is pardoning. They will insist that Trump apologize and step down.
Of course, they will.
Oh, and the Dogeboy is now calling for Trump's impeachment.
Crazy begets crazy.
Marshal is a Brown Shirt believer. He swallows every and all demagoguery.
Trump pardoned Larry Hoover.
“Hoover's gang was one of the largest and most violent drug syndicates in the U.S., operating in 35 states according to the U.S Justice Department. Hoover himself was convicted of state and federal charges including murder and use of a firearm while trafficking drugs.
"Larry Hoover was the head of perhaps the most pernicious, efficient drug operation in the United States," Safer said. "They sold over $100 million of drugs a year in the city of Chicago alone. They were responsible for countless murders. They supported their drug territories with ruthless violence."
Marshal, if you want to comment here, you can begin by answering the incredibly reasonable question...
IF it's shown to be the case that the Felon engaged in sexual predation of women and children with Epstein, will you THEN finally demand he step down or be removed?
If anyone I support is found guilty of having a committed a crime, I would expect that person be properly held accountable according to the severity of the act. Why you continue to ask these stupid questions as if he's actually guilty of serious crimes, and as if I would answer in any other way, shows just how much you hope he's guilty of having engaged in sex crimes, which also means you hope there are women/girls who have suffered. Please explain "embrace grace" to me again. I don't think that expression means what you think it means...or is supposed to mean.
BTW, Mr. No Stupidly False Claims, Trump didn't pardon Hoover. He commuted his federal sentence. Hoover's still on the hook for a lengthy Illinois sentence which will keep him incarcerated until he's 111 years old, unless failed IL governor JB Pritzker chooses to pardon him or commute his sentence. Given that Trump commuted Hoover's federal sentence, JB won't do Hoover any favors just to pretend he's a better man than Trump.
And once again, a commutation of sentence is not a pardon, and this was prompted in part by the appeal to the First Step act, which lefties loved...until Trump uses it. It's also quite possible that Trump commuted the sentence with full knowledge that it won't mean Hoover walks.
Marshal...
"Why you continue to ask these stupid questions as if he's actually guilty of serious crimes, and as if I would answer in any other way..."
Because he ALREADY HAS been convicted of 43 felonies! Because he ALREADY HAS been found liable in a sexual assault case. Because he ALREADY HAS been found guilty of misusing his charity and cheating students in a fake university scam.
You can't ignore inconvenient crimes just because you choose to dismiss them for a variety of reasons when those very real court cases ARE evidence of his very criminal, very corrupt nature.
You don't get to act all innocent and surprised when we asked these questions. You've made your bed with the pigs, you have to sleep in it.
Marshal, THIS is an instance of an unsupportive, abusive, anti-democratic and just stupidly false claim...
Both of these are the results of legal abuses, not true cases of actually finding him truly guilty of anything.
PROVE IT. It's not enough for you to say, "This legal finding but legal experts and a jury of his peers hurts my little feelings because they say bad things about my pervert princeling, so I disagree with it..."
Rational adults don't make stupidly false claims or unsupported claims. I don't CARE that you don't "accept" the legal results of these free due process legal findings. YOUR little feelings and opinions don't matter, son. Don't you see?
People like you want to deny due process to immigrants and others, but when your perverts and violent offenders and corrupt deviants are legally arrested, have their due process and are found guilty, you get unhappy and make ridiculous false claims about crazy conspiracy theories.
Your pervert IS a pervert and openly so. Your felon IS a felon and legally so.
IF you can't defend these stupidly false claims (and you can't), just move on. Rational, law-abiding, moral adults don't have time for your hurt feelings.
Marshal:
"These questions" are nonsensical and accusatory, in that you presume I'll forgive or ignore criminal behavior proven with incontrovertible evidence which leaves no doubt.
And yet, reality undermines this nonsense. He was given his due process in a free court and was found guilty of felonies by a jury of his peers. You have NO expertise greater than the judge and peers who found him guilty. You just don't like it and it hurts your feelings when your pervert isn't given a free pass.
Tough.
The question is reasonable precisely because of this nonsense, deviant response you gave.
"PROVE IT. It's not enough for you to say, "This legal finding but legal experts and a jury of his peers hurts my little feelings because they say bad things about my pervert princeling, so I disagree with it...""
I did prove it, with both testimony given before a congressional hearing as well as the analyses of the trials by Democrat-voting legal scholars like Alan Dershowitz and Johathan Turley. There's no amount or quality of proof likely to compel you to stop lying about the trials. Do you know what "The Innocence Project" is? Just because someone is "convicted" doesn't mean one was justly convicted. And you're only too happy to reject the testimonies of those who present the facts because it allows you to falsely label Trump as a "felon", which was the whole point of indicting him in the first place. Your kind doesn't care about justice.
PROVE IT. It's not enough for you to say, "This legal finding but legal experts and a jury of his peers hurts my little feelings because they say bad things about my pervert princeling, so I disagree with it..."
Unsupported, empty claims will be deleted.
It's not enough to say, I know an expert or two who find it problematic. WHY would those two experts (if experts they be) outweigh the legal experts and jury actually involved?
Finding a disagreeing opinion is not proof. It's an isolated differing opinion.
There is NO lie. That, itself, IS alie. The perverted idiot felon IS literally a felon.
Until you apologize for and retract that obvious lie, you're done on this thread.
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