Thursday, March 3, 2022

Slavery and the US Church


I've been hearing some of our conservative friends painting the white church as "the primary driver to eliminate slavery..." as if the white church were the hero in that history. This, from one who can't/won't acknowledge that slavery is always a great evil or that white men in power who, by policy and social dominance, were engaged in a great evil in their institutionalization of the racism and slavery of the day, or that the white church was not involved in a great evil in their either passive or active support for slavery and the racism that produced it.

"The primary driver to eliminate slavery."

That's quite a claim. I wonder if he could support such a charge?

Of course, I acknowledge (as Frederick Douglass noted in my last post) that there were SOME in the white church who followed the lead of black leadership to come out (sooner or later, in different cases) as not only opposed to the racism and slavery of the day, but to actively fight against it. The Quakers, as a group, were an early group who decided as a group to take an active stand against slavery. And there were others, later on and to varying degrees. (Ironically and as an aside, there would be many Christians who don't consider the Quakers to be Christians - and, of course, there are some Quakers today who'd say the same thing, I think.)

I'm not saying that some Christian churches were not involved in the fight for human rights in regards to racism and slavery.

But, we'd have to turn an extremely blind eye to actual history to refuse to acknowledge the awful efforts made by white churches in our history to defend slavery and racism as "god's will" and/or to defend slavery by remaining quiet in the face of a great evil. This post is just to point to some of the historical record regarding white church history and racism/slavery.

In the 1820s, former slave owner (and Kentuckian) James Birney became increasingly disturbed by slavery and became an abolitionist. In the 1840s, he wrote a pamphlet in England talking about slavery in the US and dealt a great deal with the degree of support for slavery and violent opposition to abolitionism within American churches. Some of his article (which, in some places, is quoting the actual religious slavery-defenders)...


THE extent to which most of the Churches in America are involved in the guilt of supporting the slave system is known to but few in this country.* So far from being even suspected by the great mass of the religious community here, it would not be believed but on the most indisputable evidence. Evidence of this character it is proposed now to present—applying to the Methodist Episcopal, the Baptist, the Presbyterian, and the Protestant Episcopal Churches. It is done with a single view to make the British Christian public acquainted with the real state of the case—in order that it may in the most intelligent and effective manner exert the influence it possesses with the American churches to persuade them to purify themselves from a sin that has greatly debased them, and that threatens in the end wholly to destroy them...

In the Methodist, Baptist, Presbyterian and Episcopal churches, the colored people, during service, sit in a particular part of the house, now generally known as the negro pew. They are not permitted to sit in any other, nor to hire or purchase pews as other people, nor would they be permitted to sit, even if invited, in the pews of white persons. This applies to all colored persons...

"As a man, a Christian, and a citizen, we believe that slavery is right; that the condition of the slave-holding States, is the best existing organization of civil society."

"He [Amos Dresser] should have been hung up as high as Haman, to rot upon the gibbet, until the wind whistled through his bones. The cry of the whole South should be death, INSTANT DEATH, to the abolitionist, wherever he is caught..."

"That slavery through the South and West is not felt as an evil, moral or political, but it is recognised in reference to the actual, and not to any Utopian condition of our slaves, as a blessing both to master and slave..."

A public meeting was appointed to be held a few days afterward, to complete, in the same spirit in which they were commenced, preparations for excluding Anti-Slavery publications from circulation, and for ferreting out persons uspected of favoring the doctrines of the abolitionists, that hey might be subjected to Lynch law. At this assembly the Charleston Courier informs us;

  "The Clergy of all denominations attended in a body, lending their sanction to the proceedings, and adding by their presence to the impressive character of the scene."

http://utc.iath.virginia.edu/christn/chesjgbat.html

I may post more of this later. But clearly, F Douglass and this Birney abolitionist recognized the prevalence and deadly vehemence of support for slavery and opposition to abolitionists. I suspect that this was the (vast) majority position in churches in the US but I'll continue to look into it.

9 comments:

Feodor said...

A few caveats:

- nearly all white abolitionists were northerners
- vast majority were women
- almost all abolitionists including christians, while abhorring slavery as inhuman, did not believe slaves to be equal in humanity
- slavers (owners, traders, almost all southern white people) argued from scripture that slavery was right for black people: it was god’s will - African American Readings of Paul by Lisa Bowens
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/euangelion/2020/11/lisa-bowens-on-african-american-readings-of-paul/

Dan Trabue said...

Yup.

Dan Trabue said...

This is not a post for you to offer your emotional hunches about abortion or to attack LGBTQ citizens, Marshal. You've oppressed people enough elsewhere.

Dan Trabue said...

And no one is saying that white men didn't die fighting against slavery, killed by white men defending slavery. It's not like that's a secret, lost to the fog of time.

Dan Trabue said...

And white privilege is a reality, not a myth. That it hurts your feelings to hear about a reality you don't want to understand doesn't make it a myth, Marshal.

Dan Trabue said...

Stupidly false claims with zero support will not be posted, Marshal. Grow up.

These first hand reports in this post talk about how deeply indicted the white church in the US was for their racism and defense of slavery.

WHITE CHRISTIANS at the time said how guilty the white church was. Do you disagree with these and other first hand reports AND if you do, based upon what?

"I REALLY think so cuz it hurts my feelings if it were true!" is not an adult response.

Dan Trabue said...

Documents from the period showing widespread opposition to slavery, reports from conventions of churches, news coverage, diaries.. where is the hard data to disprove these claims?

You have nothing but your fragile hurt feelings and those just don't count

Dan Trabue said...

Marshal, in a now-deleted comment, said...

"Why do you keep saying my feelings are fragile and hurt?"

Because, as the quotes in my post and a great deal more data shows, of course white people and white churches supported slavery and engaged in racist actions throughout the Civil War (and beyond) in large numbers. Of course,the data easily demonstrates that white privilege is a reality.

And yet, in spite of obvious realities, you take offense to the suggestions as if you were personally hurt by acknowledging the reality of racism and white oppression in our history that happened as a point of reality.

Why else would you deny reality? Why else would you spend SO MUCH time and effort to dispute reality?

Dan Trabue said...

Marshal, you can comment here on the topic of the post in a respectful manner without attacking innocent people or you can't comment. Period. Stop trying to post stupidly false and unsupported comments. They'll just be deleted.

I'll do a post about white privilege at some point and you can respond to THAT topic on that post, but only if you support your claims with expert opinions or only if you include the caveat (copy and paste it to get it right...)

"This is just MY opinion which I can't prove AT ALL, but I THINK..."