The leaf lives by the spirit. Keep living by the spirit, Dan, wherever you rest.
For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. To set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For this reason the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law—indeed it cannot, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
But you are not in the flesh; you are in the Spirit,[h] since the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
The fallen leaf dies, Dan. Almost immediately. There's no rebirth for the leaf detached from the tree.
And you'd be hard-pressed to defend any suggestion I don't believe in miracles, especially given past discussions regarding things like, creation, the Flood and other examples described in Scripture.
You don't appear to understand or appreciate every day miracles, Marshal. Only those removed by thousands of years and passed on from another language.
You don't appear to understand every day miracles or poetry or imagery.
But I don't think it's unique to you, Marshal. I think a lack of understanding of poetry and magick is symptomatic of modern conservatives.
The leaf, which was connected to one oak, which in turn was connected to the forest, disconnects from the tree and falls to the ground. The leaf, which was nourished by the almighty sun and the water of the earth and it takes that nourishment to the forest floor, providing food for the animals and bugs on the forest floor and to the tree from which it came and to the new oak sapling springing to live in the literal remains of that leaf.
That leaf lives on in the mice and bugs it nurtured, in the mushrooms it gave itself to, in the person that consumed that mushroom and to the little oak sapling growing in the shade of the mother oak.
That leaf lives in in a million ways.
Don't deny resurrection, pal. Life's too marvelous for such nonsense.
A man's sperm unites with his wife's ovum, the result of which is a new, unique and fully human individual person, made in God's image and possessed through Him of the unalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
But that isn't the miracle of resurrection anymore than your leaf story is. Resurrection requires that what is dead becomes alive in the same form, though perfected. Your leaf is dead pretty much when it hit the ground and remains so regardless of who digested it or was fertilized by its decaying components. It does not in any way live on.
I understand poetry and imagery. I also understand how difficult it is for most to use the former to evoke the latter. You've demonstrated that in your post...pal.
Marshal... "But that isn't the miracle of resurrection anymore than your leaf story is. Resurrection requires that what is dead becomes alive in the same form, though perfected."
Not an opinion, Dan, but a paraphrasing of the actual definition. Look up the word and try to find something that resembles your leaf poem. That's not resurrection. The leaf being eaten or decayed into some fertilizing substance for the growth of something else is not resurrection. It's a simple fact.
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Actually, you couldn't, because not being attached to the tree from which you feel means you are dying, not living.
Just sayin'.
For those who don't believe in miracles and rebirth, perhaps.
The leaf lives by the spirit. Keep living by the spirit, Dan, wherever you rest.
For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. To set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For this reason the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law—indeed it cannot, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
But you are not in the flesh; you are in the Spirit,[h] since the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
The fallen leaf dies, Dan. Almost immediately. There's no rebirth for the leaf detached from the tree.
And you'd be hard-pressed to defend any suggestion I don't believe in miracles, especially given past discussions regarding things like, creation, the Flood and other examples described in Scripture.
You don't appear to understand or appreciate every day miracles, Marshal. Only those removed by thousands of years and passed on from another language.
You don't appear to understand every day miracles or poetry or imagery.
But I don't think it's unique to you, Marshal. I think a lack of understanding of poetry and magick is symptomatic of modern conservatives.
Tis a shame.
The leaf, which was connected to one oak, which in turn was connected to the forest, disconnects from the tree and falls to the ground. The leaf, which was nourished by the almighty sun and the water of the earth and it takes that nourishment to the forest floor, providing food for the animals and bugs on the forest floor and to the tree from which it came and to the new oak sapling springing to live in the literal remains of that leaf.
That leaf lives on in the mice and bugs it nurtured, in the mushrooms it gave itself to, in the person that consumed that mushroom and to the little oak sapling growing in the shade of the mother oak.
That leaf lives in in a million ways.
Don't deny resurrection, pal. Life's too marvelous for such nonsense.
Ah...the "Circle of Life"! Mufasa would be proud!
Here's a true miracle of life for ya:
A man's sperm unites with his wife's ovum, the result of which is a new, unique and fully human individual person, made in God's image and possessed through Him of the unalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
But that isn't the miracle of resurrection anymore than your leaf story is. Resurrection requires that what is dead becomes alive in the same form, though perfected. Your leaf is dead pretty much when it hit the ground and remains so regardless of who digested it or was fertilized by its decaying components. It does not in any way live on.
I understand poetry and imagery. I also understand how difficult it is for most to use the former to evoke the latter. You've demonstrated that in your post...pal.
By that way, try not to let my previous comment suggest I don't appreciate your attempts at creativity. Keep at it.
I was, for a moment,
a leaf upon a tree
and the leaf, for a moment,
was me...
I billowed most glorious
in a soft autumn wind
and the leaf, for her part
sipped hot tea
Marshal... "But that isn't the miracle of resurrection anymore than your leaf story is. Resurrection requires that what is dead becomes alive in the same form, though perfected."
I get that this is your opinion.
Not an opinion, Dan, but a paraphrasing of the actual definition. Look up the word and try to find something that resembles your leaf poem. That's not resurrection. The leaf being eaten or decayed into some fertilizing substance for the growth of something else is not resurrection. It's a simple fact.
It’s a surprisingly ultra-liberal move by Marshal to argue that we must believe that god, in the person of the Son, can and must have died.
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