tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post1317738431940927607..comments2024-03-29T06:26:33.285-07:00Comments on Through These Woods: Borrowed from MartyDan Trabuehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14303597141397042669noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-70076282714509464572006-11-01T03:24:00.000-08:002006-11-01T03:24:00.000-08:00A typical dictionary definition of hypnosis states...A typical dictionary definition of hypnosis states that it is: a state that resembles sleep but that is induced by suggestion. However, anyone who has tried hypnosis (and any self respecting hypnotist) will tell you that this is a very simplistic view of the subject! <br>A much better description comes from the Free Online Dictionary which states that hypnosis is: an artificially induced state of consciousness, characterised by heightened suggestibility and receptivity to direction. So what does this mean and how can it be used to your advantage? <br><br>Well, the subject of hypnosis has been discussed and pondered since the late 1700s. Many explanations and theories have come and gone though science, however, has yet to supply a valid and well-established definition of how it actually happens. It's fairly unlikely that the scientific community will arrive at a definitive explanation for hypnosis in the near future either, as the untapped resources of our 'mostly' uncharted mind still remain something of a mystery. <br>However, the general characteristics of hypnosis are well documented. It is a trance state characterized by extreme suggestibility, deep relaxation and heightened imaginative functioning. It's not really like sleep at all, because the subject is alert the whole time. It is most often compared to daydreaming, or the feeling you get when you watch a movie or read a captivating book. You are fully conscious, but you tune out most of the outside world. Your focus is concentrated intensely on the mental processes you are experiencing - if movies didn't provide such disassociation with everyday life and put a person in a very receptive state then they would not be as popular (nor would TV advertising be as effective!). Have you ever stated that a film wasn't great because you just couldn't 'get into it'??? <br>This works very simply; while daydream or watching a movie, an imaginary world becomes almost real to you because it fully engages your emotional responses. Such mental pursuits will on most occasions cause real emotional responses such as fear, sadness or happiness (have you ever cried at a sad movie, felt excited by a future event not yet taken place or shivered at the thought of your worst fear?). <br>It is widely accepted that these states are all forms of self-hypnosis. If you take this view you can easily see that you go into and out of mild hypnotic states on a daily basis - when driving home from work, washing the dishes, or even listening to a boring conversation. Although these situations produce a mental state that is very receptive to suggestion the most powerful time for self-change occurs in the trance state brought on by intentional relaxation and focusing exercises. This deep hypnosis is often compared to the relaxed mental state between wakefulness and sleep. <br>In this mental state, people feel uninhibited and relaxed and they release all worries and doubts that normally occupy their mind. A similar experience occurs while you are daydreaming or watching the TV. You become so involved in the onscreen anticscylonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14213170672872883803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-9785248168399767312006-07-13T07:50:00.000-07:002006-07-13T07:50:00.000-07:00Dear All - A refreshing site... Quite calm - and ...Dear All - A refreshing site... Quite calm - and informative. Christian, for the most part. Very refreshing!<br><br>I don't know how old the story line is about the wine (alcohol) issue, but I wanted to bring to Eleutheros attention that the governor of the feast did not say that the guests were "sloshed" (er...I mean "drunk"), but had "well drunk" (as well, I'm sure, as having "well eaten"). E also said that "it would have been a miracle INDEED" - Well, YES, it WAS a miracle INDEED, as all of Christ's miracles were, right? Sincerely......JOkerrismom60http://www.blogger.com/profile/08181689477892617635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-60516469281142621042006-02-24T20:32:00.000-08:002006-02-24T20:32:00.000-08:00No problem, Tom. I've made my share of gaffes ...No problem, Tom. I've made my share of gaffes by typing before thinking through.<br><br>I'm curious though (and can't find it in this post anywhere): Who made a comment about something being God's will? Because I and others thought Rev. Lowery was being prophetic?Dan Trabuehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14303597141397042669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-8653190667254807862006-02-24T14:43:00.000-08:002006-02-24T14:43:00.000-08:00I figured that last statement would get me in Dutc...I figured that last statement would get me in Dutch somehow...Dan, you are correct in your statememt. <br><br>However, I don't think much of various politicians or people stating & using phrases like "...and that's God's Will!" in promoting their own agenda. And that's what I was referring to. My fault for not making that perfectly clear - no sleep for 36+ hours does not make for effective communication.Tomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12598533152052996735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-31848936154532826802006-02-23T16:03:00.000-08:002006-02-23T16:03:00.000-08:00Knowing God's will is easy: God's will is ...Knowing God's will is easy: God's will is for us to love God and love God's people and creation.<br><br>Bingo!Dan Trabuehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14303597141397042669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-84644439814562568432006-02-22T14:41:00.000-08:002006-02-22T14:41:00.000-08:00I'm sorry, but I thought funerals were meant t...I'm sorry, but I thought funerals were meant to celebrate the life of the deceased, not for politcal or personal grandstanding. <br><br>And anyone who claims to know of God's mind or will borders on blasphemy...Tomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12598533152052996735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-21426158210373688742006-02-18T19:32:00.000-08:002006-02-18T19:32:00.000-08:00And Wasp....you're still making me laugh..Ha! ...And Wasp....you're still making me laugh..Ha! :)Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02908921670853665703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-18036260516510519702006-02-18T19:30:00.000-08:002006-02-18T19:30:00.000-08:00Marcguyver said: "Marty, nope. To me that'...Marcguyver said: "Marty, nope. To me that's completely different"<br><br>How is it different?Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02908921670853665703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-36246530728587305832006-02-18T19:14:00.000-08:002006-02-18T19:14:00.000-08:00From Anon, I believe:"I also believe there ha...From Anon, I believe:"I also believe there have been differing views on whether the wine was fermented."<br><br>Wasp Jerky."That must have been another miracle, given the lack of refrigeration back in those days."<br><br>It would have been a miracle indeed. That cloudy film on grapes is yeast. If you crush grapes into juice and don't pasturize it, it becomes wine very quickly. The 'I'm going to out-Christian even Jesus by not drinking any wine' bit of sock-puppetry leads the ardent believing teetotaler to the bring of outright mendacity to explain the references to wine in the NT.<br><br>Remember at the wedding feast the govenor of the feast rebuked the host for holding out the best wine for last and what was his explaination for putting out the best wine first? Because, he explained, the guests would drink the good wine, get sloshed, and not know if the wine they had later was good or not. And this was grape juice that was going to accomplish this??<br><br>The TBTT (True Believing TeeTotaler) finds the term 'new wine' in the NT and says "Ah, that HAS to mean grape juice, right!? That shows they were swilling on the Welch's back then, right?" It was so strongly held that Jesus would not have anything to do with alcohol by some fundamentalist friends of mine, that they firmly believed that at the last supper Jesus served grape juice, "new wine." I remember one of them reading the account in Acts of the speaking in tongues and the apostles were accused of being drunk with 'new wine' and they had a puzzled look as to why they thought they would be drunk on Welche's.<br><br>Well, the term 'new wine' in the NT is 'gleukos' and it literally means 'sweet wine'. Wine in ancient times was made by partially drying the grapes which concentrated the sugars and allowed for a higher alcohol content. When the wine was drunk in polite company, it was mixed in a bowl (crater) with water to dilute it somewhat. Drinking the undiluted stuff was considered boorish and the sort of thing only a drunkard would do, but no doubt it would put someone on their can in a hurry due to it being more potent.<br><br>We don't know what month the wedding in Caanan took place, but the passover was half a year after the grape harvest. To have Welch's grape juice then would indeed have been a miracle.Eleutheroshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14542743607861831706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-36702727838955107612006-02-18T14:06:00.000-08:002006-02-18T14:06:00.000-08:00"Now, as to Jesus liking alcohol, I will diff..."Now, as to Jesus liking alcohol, I will differ with that also. I do not see any reference to alcoholic beverages being a favorite of Jesus. I also believe there have been differing views on whether the wine was fermented."<br><br>That must have been another miracle, given the lack of refrigeration back in those days.Wasp Jerkyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12069601959301114137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-88959890208991004902006-02-16T21:33:00.000-08:002006-02-16T21:33:00.000-08:00Shameful confession time:When I married, my wife a...Shameful confession time:<br><br>When I married, my wife and I were in to that "save folk at all costs" type/stage of christianity and used our marriage ceremony as a club to preach at our unwary non-christian friends.<br><br>With the best of intentions and love in our hearts, of course.<br><br>I now find that to have cheapened the gospel rather than promoted it and may have well turned some folk away from church forever.<br><br>So, as I said, you'll want to avoid my funeral, but for altogether different reasons.Dan Trabuehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14303597141397042669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-73053482298100447402006-02-16T19:38:00.000-08:002006-02-16T19:38:00.000-08:00Marty, nope. To me that's completely differen...Marty, nope. To me that's completely different; although I have been to at least one funeral that I thought was just as shameful in the way certain people appeared to be using it as a "promotion" for their muscial talent.Marcguyverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10786912845816653302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-27090110622930384512006-02-11T15:11:00.000-08:002006-02-11T15:11:00.000-08:00Great Post Dan, thanks. Yes, I have long since bel...Great Post Dan, thanks. Yes, I have long since believed that being a true prophet was not about foretelling, but rather about FORTH-telling the heart of God. So yes, speaking truth to power is as prophetic as it gets.voixdangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03999151450694973251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-29984121563129369282006-02-11T15:05:00.000-08:002006-02-11T15:05:00.000-08:00I'll just let you know then that, when I die, ...I'll just let you know then that, when I die, don't bother coming to my funeral. I'll be glad for my loved ones to trash talk any leaders as bad as W. It'd be a great legacy.Dan Trabuehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14303597141397042669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-70663588098058095712006-02-11T13:09:00.000-08:002006-02-11T13:09:00.000-08:00Marcguyver said: "I still think it is complet...Marcguyver said: "I still think it is completely disrespectful to use a "Funeral" as a soap box for any agenda!"<br><br>What about the "saving souls" agenda? We buried my uncle a week ago today. I might as well have been in a revival service. There were a few personal facts shared about uncle, but for the most part it was a call to accept Christ as Savior or perish in eternal damnation. What about that agenda? Do you consider that shameful and shallow as well?Martyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02908921670853665703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-3066298197000155722006-02-11T10:20:00.000-08:002006-02-11T10:20:00.000-08:00Irregardless of what was said, I still think it is...Irregardless of what was said, I still think it is completely disrespectful to use a "Funeral" as a soap box for any agenda!<br><br>It's shallow and shameful!!Marcguyverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10786912845816653302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-56227005595506214622006-02-11T07:32:00.000-08:002006-02-11T07:32:00.000-08:00Anon [nudge, nod, wink]:"Now, as to Jesus lik...Anon [nudge, nod, wink]:"Now, as to Jesus liking alcohol, I will differ with that also. I do not see any reference to alcoholic beverages being a favorite of Jesus."<br><br>Well, it depends on which whispy threads we find when we card the Bible that we include in our sock puppet and which we ignore and discard.<br><br>"The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber" (Matt 11:19)<br><br>No, no point in bothering with the 'out of context' thing. All threads in the Bible are in or out of context depending on whether we want to believe them.<br><br>And speaking of Sock Puppets, Lowery's righteous wrath comes from his own personal sock puppet, you can make out the Haynes label and 'Made in China' if you look closely enough.<br><br>Dan:"I think you know that I agree with a lot of what you think about economics, but not all. This is one of those instances."<br><br>Of course you don't, Dan, how could you possibly? No need to bring up the Upton Sinclair quote again on why. If a person wanted a full time job passing out 1lb bags of beans to the hungry, or better still a full time job supervising people with full time jobs passing out bags of beans, it would be met with derision to the effect of: "A bag of beans costs 38 cents! If we paid you $15K a year to supervise giving those out, we could just buy 40,000 bags of beans and give them to everyone. That way the poor get fed and we don't have to hire anyone. All the bag passers can find themselves useful work." <br><br>But if instead we dump several million dollars to buy beans for the poor, soon a bag of beans will cost $20. The number of 'poor' increases dramatically since now almost no one can afford beans on thier own. And, most importantly, hiring someone at a high salary to supervise passing out the $20 bags of beans doesn't seem so out of line after all, now does it?!"<br><br>That is, I much doubt your disagreement is based on the economic principles involved. At least you haven't ever expressed an economic basis for it.Eleutheroshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14542743607861831706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-60702591658360978272006-02-11T07:14:00.000-08:002006-02-11T07:14:00.000-08:00Could it be that conflict is Christian? Could it b...Could it be that conflict is Christian? Could it be that the more contentious a person is, the more Christian he or she is? For many years I expected Christians to be different and it caused me much stress. Then I realized the new testament is about contention, disagreement and in-fighting. Why did Paul write to the Corinthians? Because of problems. Why did he write to the other churchs? Problems and fighting.<br><br>I suspect that if we agreed that Jesus turned water to wine that we would then begin a debate about whether it was a Merlot.<br><br>Could it be that it is foolish to expect agreement, respect and compassion from Christians?<br><br>I don’t have answers – just questions.I_Wonderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17082661551443952144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-80503746639360895632006-02-11T06:23:00.000-08:002006-02-11T06:23:00.000-08:00I am sure a have quite a few years on Wasp Jerky a...I am sure a have quite a few years on Wasp Jerky and Dan and that makes a difference in how we view things. I voted Democrat more years than either of these young men have been alive, so I am not naive enough to think corruption and sin belongs to one certain party. However, life brings with it some lessons and I will not remain loyal to a party that does not value life in its most innocent form (unborn baby in the womb).<br>Now, as to Jesus liking alcohol, I will differ with that also. I do not see any reference to alcoholic beverages being a favorite of Jesus. I also believe there have been differing views on whether the wine was fermented.<br>I am also of the opinion that as born again Christians (although still sinners, forgiven) we have become a new creation and should be striving to be more like Christ and I fear some of our churches are not teaching what the Bible views as sinful and it is becoming very hard to distinguish a Christian from an unbeliever. Our fruits should show forth evidence of the change and the changes should continue daily as we seek to know Him - Jesus. MarilynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-64399221478540106942006-02-10T20:35:00.000-08:002006-02-10T20:35:00.000-08:00"weapons of misdirection" -- Wow!"weapons of misdirection" -- Wow!lenéhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10018280698586741856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-19869148864673121462006-02-10T19:38:00.000-08:002006-02-10T19:38:00.000-08:00Marilyn,I'm not entirely sure what being a Dem...Marilyn,<br><br>I'm not entirely sure what being a Democrat (or not) has to do with it. Not everything is partisan. Given that the President's approval rating is now in the upper 30s, it appears that quite a few Republicans are also a bit unhappy with the job he is doing. It's also interesting that only about 4-10 percent of African Americans approve of the job our President is doing. So it really shouldn't be too surprising that the response from the crowd was what it was. If the Kings' friends and family weren't upset with the comments, then what business is it of yours what Lowery and Carter said? But if you've got any moral outrage left over, perhaps you might consider aiming it at an administration that lied us into a war that has cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars. <br><br>As for alcohol, you might be fascinated to know that Jesus appeared to be rather fond of the stuff. From what I hear, he even made a large batch of it at a wedding. Good thing it wasn't a "Christian wedding" I guess, eh?Wasp Jerkyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12069601959301114137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-55405341189596767452006-02-10T15:56:00.000-08:002006-02-10T15:56:00.000-08:00You're right Marilyn. Just because a lot of pe...You're right Marilyn. Just because a lot of people (democrats, republicans, whatever) are supporting something together doesn't make it right. For instance, 40-ish% of a population supporting a war does not make it right. <br><br>What makes it right or wrong is whether or not it matches up to God's word. Whether or not an action is done for the purpose of justice and love.<br><br>Those who spoke at Mrs. King's funeral, those who applauded and thereby rebuked Bush, did so, in my estimation, as an act of prophetic Truth-speaking.<br><br>Eleutheros, we've been through this and I'll pass on discussing it again with you. I think you know that I agree with a lot of what you think about economics, but not all. This is one of those instances.<br><br>The Kings doubtless would speak the very words that were spoken if they were there. What the people were doing in their great absence, was speaking Truth and rebuking Pharoah. Chastizing the pharisees. And rightly so, according to God's word.Dan Trabuehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14303597141397042669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-14339758248008776902006-02-10T15:46:00.000-08:002006-02-10T15:46:00.000-08:00Wasp Jerky, Just because a bunch of Democrats cla...Wasp Jerky, Just because a bunch of Democrats clap and whistle at a memorial service does not make it appropriate. Neither, in my opinion does a Christian going into a Christian bookstore to buy Christian music while staggering under the influence of alcohol, make it appropriate. We all slip up, but we need to remember whose we are and who we are affecting by our behavior. MarilynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-64469404439140510992006-02-10T14:37:00.000-08:002006-02-10T14:37:00.000-08:00"Dan, I can't believe that you find it ap..."Dan, I can't believe that you find it appropriate to use Coretta King's coffin as a soapbox for anti-war bullsh*t. Fine. Lowery disagrees with the war and Jimmy Carter doesn't believe in wiretaps. That's great. Save it for the right place and time - not a celebration or mourning of a civil right's legend."<br><br>Because the Kings were so very pro-war. And just listen to the audience boo when Lowery and Carter make those comments. They certainly seem to agree with you, neo-con.Wasp Jerkyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12069601959301114137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7923725288901074422.post-28361082917114962612006-02-10T13:43:00.000-08:002006-02-10T13:43:00.000-08:00I found my six-shooter!Eleutheros, wonderful comme...I found my six-shooter!<br><br>Eleutheros, wonderful comments, I wonder where you come up with this stuff.<br><br>Dan, I can't believe that you find it appropriate to use Coretta King's coffin as a soapbox for anti-war bullsh*t. Fine. Lowery disagrees with the war and Jimmy Carter doesn't believe in wiretaps. That's great. Save it for the right place and time - not a celebration or mourning of a civil right's legend.Neo-Con Tastichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18364461858601786268noreply@blogger.com